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Started by passerby, June 11, 2023, 05:56:02 PM

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MaddogLutheran

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Quote from: David Garner on July 10, 2023, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: John Mundinger on July 10, 2023, 07:58:04 AM
Quote from: pearson on July 08, 2023, 03:44:27 PM
But can fallen humanity know any of this, with confidence or without, in our entrenched astigmatic condition?  If original sin has disabled us as you properly point out, all of those assertions about the "kingdom" you quote from Dr. Wheeler is so much idle and foolish human fantasizing.

I think you were right the first time, Mr. Mundinger.

Tom Pearson

It is really curious that, when it comes to loving the neighbor, folks are willing to excuse not behaving like Jesus because they cannot know.  But, when it comes to judging the neighbor they have great confidence in knowing.  Something doesn't compute.

Isn't this a judgment on your part?

Ding!

In these recent exchanges across several active threads, it's like somebody has assigned himself to the priestly caste to make such determinations about others.  Even though he includes himself in the "we", he really doesn't mean it.  Because he has observed all of the purity rituals (like the temple priests) of the correct political orientation and therefore can judge others who lack righteousness.

Ironic, because in one of the posts, he makes a comparison to the Good Samaritan parable where the travelers with high standing ignore the injured man.
Sterling Spatz
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RF

This this is beginning to remind me of the progressive view that Margaret Thatcher commented on. It is so easy to spend other peoples money!

David Garner

Quote from: MaddogLutheran on July 10, 2023, 11:07:42 AM
Quote from: David Garner on July 10, 2023, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: John Mundinger on July 10, 2023, 07:58:04 AM
Quote from: pearson on July 08, 2023, 03:44:27 PM
But can fallen humanity know any of this, with confidence or without, in our entrenched astigmatic condition?  If original sin has disabled us as you properly point out, all of those assertions about the "kingdom" you quote from Dr. Wheeler is so much idle and foolish human fantasizing.

I think you were right the first time, Mr. Mundinger.

Tom Pearson

It is really curious that, when it comes to loving the neighbor, folks are willing to excuse not behaving like Jesus because they cannot know.  But, when it comes to judging the neighbor they have great confidence in knowing.  Something doesn't compute.

Isn't this a judgment on your part?

Ding!

In these recent exchanges across several active threads, it's like somebody has assigned himself to the priestly caste to make such determinations about others.  Even though he includes himself in the "we", he really doesn't mean it.  Because he himself has observed all of the purity rituals (like the temple priests) of the correct political orientation and therefore can judge others who lack righteousness.

Ironic, because in one of the posts, he makes a comparison to the Good Samaritan parable where the travels with high standing ignore the injured man.

Oh, but that was cool because WE are the ones supposedly ignoring the injured man.

Heads I win, tails you lose.  Seems like the "WWJD" answer, right?
Orthodox Reader and former Lutheran (LCMS and WELS).

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