Quote from: gan ainm on December 24, 2017, 05:28:06 PMQuote from: R. T. Fouts on December 19, 2017, 08:17:31 PM
There is a clear disjunction between progressivism with its utopian ends and Christian eschatology. That said, what progressives often attempt to manifest through earthly governments, we embrace communally as proleptic participants in our not-yet realized future, because we are also living it now. The difference, however, is that progressivism hinges the accomplishment of these social values upon human institutions. Their failure rests in the notion that humans (and therefore human institutions) are inherently good and trustworthy. Recognizing the reality of human depravity, we recognize a need for governments. But we also realize true biblical justice through charity, not by means of secular authorities.
I attended an ELCA service this afternoon with a family member. Beautiful building. Lots of people. Jesus the baby was present as was Jesus the social justice warrior. The Jesus who came to die for our sins was absent. The message had lots of emphasis on reading yourself into the Scriptures and looking for God in your feelings. Little emphasis on looking to the external Word for truth. I'm not sure what translation was used for the readings but it was definitely PC. Very progressive.
By "progressivism" I was speaking in the technical sense of American culture and life, typified by the "progressive movement" from 1870ish-1920ish, and experiencing an ideological "revival" of sorts in American political life today. It was a movement that promised a utopian future, which generated an inevitable let-down in the decades which followed when the capacities of man for evil and destruction became so evident in the early 20th century that post-Enlightenment optimism which saw the human condition "progressing" to a higher and better reality was shattered. I was speaking of an ideology that underpins much of what might be called "leftism" today... which doesn't really have to do with what bible translation is being used in Scripture. We were probably using the word in two different ways.