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#1
Your Turn / Re: Life Isn't Fair
Yesterday at 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: Brian Stoffregen on July 21, 2024, 11:06:11 PM
Quote from: Terry W Culler on July 21, 2024, 07:44:05 PM
Quote from: Brian Stoffregen on July 21, 2024, 06:47:01 PM
Quote from: Terry W Culler on July 21, 2024, 12:29:52 PMSome people here seem to have the idea that, since we are all sinners, and since all sin is abhorrent to God, and since Christ, in His atoning sacrifice, paid the price for our sins, we should not call out sin when we discern its presence. Frankly, this is a sub-Christian ideal.  The Church is to purge itself, insofar as possible, of unrepented sins--which are sins we repeat and have no intention of stopping. Certainly we all continue sinning, but that's not an acceptable excuse. When I pronounce absolution I speak to those who repent of their sins and trust only in Christ, not to those who refuse to repent or trust in themselves.
Yes, we are to call out sin ... but only after we have thoroughly examined and removed the logs in our own eyes. What I've heard repeatedly is folks calling out the sins (they believe) they see in homosexual behaviors without ever acknowledging their own sins.


Irrelevant. A former senator from Louisiana, I believe, had a saying, don't tax you, don't tax me, tax that fellow behind the tree. Well, that is true for many people who like to point out other's sins. That doesn't mean, however, that the others are not sinning. Frankly, any pastor who does not preach against sin is not living up to his ordination vows and is not truly engaging in the cure of souls. It is part of our calling and we will answer to God for how we, who have been blessed to be pastors, have fed His sheep. Ignoring their sins is simply allowing them to have a false assurance of salvation and no amount of Gospel without Law, no antinomian nonsense, will serve them the true "meat" of the faith.
I preach against sins all the time; but I include myself as one of the sinners. It's not "you sinners" while pointing a finger at others. My mother used to say whenever we pointed like that, "You've got three fingers pointing back at yourself." It's "us sinners."

Frankly, I'd like to know what specific sin(s) do you believe homosexuals are committing - that are not also found in yourself? Is it sexual immorality? If you lust after women, you're just as guilty of sexual immorality. If you are unable to remove all thoughts of lust from your life; you are remaining in that sin just as much as folks in same-sex marriages. It is you who are the antinomian when you are ignoring the sin in your life (those logs in your eyes) when you go after the splinters in others.


Let's start with this--I didn't mention homosexuality, I simply spoke of sins. I've also said I have never preached a sermon against homosexuality per se. My concern in this discussion is the growing antinomianism among liberals in the Church. "God is good, God loves you" is fine as long as the Law is also applied. I was taught to preach as if I had 3 groups of people in the pews. Group 1 consists of people who do not see themselves as sinners--and I should preach Law to them so they can see who they really are. Group 2 consists of people convicted of their sin, but relying on their own efforts to make themselves right with God--to them I preach inborn sinfulness and personal weakness in temptation. Group 3 are those who know they are sinners, know they can do nothing about it, truly repent of their sins, and place their entire trust in Christ. As the hymn says, those who know the story love to hear it as the rest. I would also point out that a good pastor, preaching Law and Gospel is preaching to himself as well as to those in front of him. So stop trying to say we are a bunch of hypocrites and self-righteous prigs when we condemn sin. We aren't, we are simply telling the truth, calling a thing what it is. Showing concern for the souls of our parishioners.
#2
Your Turn / Re: Life Isn't Fair
July 21, 2024, 07:44:05 PM
Quote from: Brian Stoffregen on July 21, 2024, 06:47:01 PM
Quote from: Terry W Culler on July 21, 2024, 12:29:52 PMSome people here seem to have the idea that, since we are all sinners, and since all sin is abhorrent to God, and since Christ, in His atoning sacrifice, paid the price for our sins, we should not call out sin when we discern its presence. Frankly, this is a sub-Christian ideal.  The Church is to purge itself, insofar as possible, of unrepented sins--which are sins we repeat and have no intention of stopping. Certainly we all continue sinning, but that's not an acceptable excuse. When I pronounce absolution I speak to those who repent of their sins and trust only in Christ, not to those who refuse to repent or trust in themselves.
Yes, we are to call out sin ... but only after we have thoroughly examined and removed the logs in our own eyes. What I've heard repeatedly is folks calling out the sins (they believe) they see in homosexual behaviors without ever acknowledging their own sins.


Irrelevant. A former senator from Louisiana, I believe, had a saying, don't tax you, don't tax me, tax that fellow behind the tree. Well, that is true for many people who like to point out other's sins. That doesn't mean, however, that the others are not sinning. Frankly, any pastor who does not preach against sin is not living up to his ordination vows and is not truly engaging in the cure of souls. It is part of our calling and we will answer to God for how we, who have been blessed to be pastors, have fed His sheep. Ignoring their sins is simply allowing them to have a false assurance of salvation and no amount of Gospel without Law, no antinomian nonsense, will serve them the true "meat" of the faith.
#3
Your Turn / Re: Life Isn't Fair
July 21, 2024, 02:54:21 PM
Actually I have never once preached specifically against homosexuality. I have never served a congregation where that is an issue. I have preached against such things as gossip, greed, selfish behavior, and other sins which bedevil the average congregation. Also, I have never, not once, not ever preached Law without Gospel. In fact, I believe the Law is part of the Gospel, for without the Law we would not know what sin is. So as John Newton wrote, "it is grace has caused my heart to fear and grace my fear relieved."

A person who does not repent of their sins, even those they don't know about, is probably not truly part of the faith, if they were they would be crushed by the weight of their sinfulness, coming to Christ as the only Way, Truth and Life. Luther would not recognize your version of Lutheranism.
#4
Your Turn / Re: Life Isn't Fair
July 21, 2024, 12:29:52 PM
Some people here seem to have the idea that, since we are all sinners, and since all sin is abhorrent to God, and since Christ, in His atoning sacrifice, paid the price for our sins, we should not call out sin when we discern its presence. Frankly, this is a sub-Christian ideal.  The Church is to purge itself, insofar as possible, of unrepented sins--which are sins we repeat and have no intention of stopping. Certainly we all continue sinning, but that's not an acceptable excuse. When I pronounce absolution I speak to those who repent of their sins and trust only in Christ, not to those who refuse to repent or trust in themselves.
#5
Your Turn / Re: Life Isn't Fair
July 19, 2024, 05:37:23 PM
If homosexual attraction is found to be genetic and the genes identifiable in utero, would it be okay to abort that child in order to avoid the difficulties he might have to face in life? You might think that's snide, and to a certain extent it is, still, we live in a world where some argue for abortion "rights" all the way up to birth for just about any reason. Why not to rid the world of 5% of the population whose activities upset so many people? Which is more important to liberals LGBTQ identification or abortion?
#6
Your Turn / Re: Life Isn't Fair
July 18, 2024, 08:03:46 PM
I tend to trace the personal dislike shown by politicians today to the nomination of Robert Bork and Ted Kennedy's personal attacks on a well qualified nominee. Many Republicans were so appalled at Kennedy's attacks and those of other Democrats that the "personal comradery" which had always existed despite disagreements on policy matters began to disappear.
#7
I have no idea if former President Trump's escape from the assassination attempt was God's doing. And while I don't know his heart, I suspect he has little if any understanding of true Christianity. That said, God does not use believers only to accomplish His will. Remember, Nebuchadnezzar my servant.

We should also ponder R.C. Sproul's comment that, if there is one molecule in the universe that God does not control, we cannot have an assurance of our salvation. Note too Lamentations 3.
#8
Quote from: John Mundinger on July 15, 2024, 06:41:21 AM
Quote from: Terry W Culler on July 14, 2024, 02:45:54 PMFree market capitalism is an economic system in which the buyer determines whether or not to purchase any item(s). The buyer, not the seller is the one in charge of the transaction(s.) including the true value of an object. If you have any complaint against capitalism it is that buyers make decisions you disapprove of.

If that is your definition, then we don't practice free-market capitalism in this country.


I grant that corporate bureaucrats have distorted capitalism in many cases. But the buyer is still king of the transaction. No one tells you to pay $60,000 for a car. No one tells you to pay $400,000 for a relatively modest home. No one tells you what to buy or how to buy it except when the government sticks its nose in where it doesn't belong. If everyone said no to high prices and poor quality the corporations would respond. Think back to how bad American cars were in the '70's and early '80's. Americans began buying Japanese cars instead and suddenly Detroit realized that competition required better quality at better prices and now we think we've purchased a lemon if we don't get 200,000 miles out of it. I repeat, your complaint isn't with sellers, it is with consumers because you don't like what they choose to consume.
#9
Quote from: Brian Stoffregen on July 14, 2024, 08:14:06 PM
Quote from: Terry W Culler on July 14, 2024, 02:45:54 PMFree market capitalism is an economic system in which the buyer determines whether or not to purchase any item(s). The buyer, not the seller is the one in charge of the transaction(s.) including the true value of an object. If you have any complaint against capitalism it is that buyers make decisions you disapprove of.
As a buyer, I have almost never been able to determine the price for what I pay for something at restaurants, grocery stores, gas stations, my utilities, my medicines. I have been able to do some haggling when buying a car and a house. I have been able to do a lot of haggling when buying most anything in Mexico.

On the other hand, farmers and ranchers don't get to set the price for their products. Often they have no idea how the price of a bushel of corn or soy beans gets set by non-farmers in Chicago.


first off, you have the power to decline a product or service if you disapprove of the price. No one forces you to go to a restaurant, buy gasoline or most anything else. Your argument about prices for corn and soy beans actually proves my point, farmers and ranchers are capitalists. The price they want to get for their products is somewhat irrelevant, it is determined by what the buyers are willing to pay.
#10
Free market capitalism is an economic system in which the buyer determines whether or not to purchase any item(s). The buyer, not the seller is the one in charge of the transaction(s.) including the true value of an object. If you have any complaint against capitalism it is that buyers make decisions you disapprove of.
#11
Your Turn / Re: Critique of Christian Nationalism
July 13, 2024, 09:58:53 AM
I'm really wondering if "Christian Nationalism" isn't some kind of boogeyman made up to frighten leftists and secularists. Are there people we might label Christian Nationalists? Sure. Are there very many of them--not in my experience anyway. I will say I can't think of any I know and I travel in pretty conservative circles. It reminds of something that happened in Maryland years ago where there was a great brouhaha that the KKK was going to have a cross burning. Everyone was in a tizzy over it. Well they had their cross burning out in a field, there were about a dozen Klansmen and 100 reporters and cameramen and maybe another hundred protesters. Even the newspeople seemed embarrassed by their playing up this antic. I suspect the worry about Christian Nationalism falls into the same bowl.
#12
In the Wittenburg Concord Luther and Bucer found a way to commune together. It was Calvin who messed that up by trying to bring the Zurichers into the fold.
#13
I've taken the position that I am not the communion police. We explain both in written form and in an oral statement what we believe about Holy Communion, including a statement that the Sacrament is for baptized Christians only  We also make it clear that by 
communing with us they are saying this too is their confession. If they show up after all this I will commune them assuming either they are telling the truth or they are sinning against Christ. I truly have no certain way of knowing.
#14
Quote from: Dan Fienen on July 11, 2024, 03:12:54 PM
Quote from: John_Hannah on July 11, 2024, 03:04:23 PM
Quote from: Terry W Culler on July 11, 2024, 03:00:16 PMHow would a Missourian compare this to the Akron/Galesburg rule of the General Council?

Good question.

Akron/Galesburg said Lutherans only with pastoral exceptions allowed. Missouri now says, Missourians only (with exceptions.)
Why should we be concerned? Our ELCA brethren have declared the Adron/Galesburg rule outdated, hateful, null and void.


Dan: I'm not sure what you mean by the last sentence. I'm asking for the some work I'm doing on the General Council and current Lutheran practice.
#15
How would a Missourian compare this to the Akron/Galesburg rule of the General Council?
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